Day 5 stuff

[ardor]

ElJeffe, DA and I were talking and I had an idea.

What if I post the following?

"You know what? Let ElJeffe live. If he's innocent, the monsters should take him since he might get a vision tonight. If he's a monster, he will likely live until tomorrow and we can destroy him then. Let's find out what the other people are. He knows lying to claim to be a good guy special only hurts the good guys, so he's either telling the truth or he's a monster."

[discgrace]

What would be the awesomest is if thorgot really is a changeling.

[eljeffe]

That would, in fact, be keen. And Ardor, go ahead.

I have a shelf life of two days here, regardless of what goes down.

[ardor]

discgrace said:

So there's a pretty good chance 1 or 2 of us will die tonight at monster hands, since we're about half of the non-monster population now. Jeepers. Ardor, I'll be super-impressed if this whole thing has been your elaborate plan to get the villagers to kill each other off faster.

I'm not worthy of such credit. It is possible I'm a bad guy, but I've given you all my word that I'm innocent. I do not give my word lightly in these games, a fact that frustrates more than frandelgearslip and jdarksun.

ElJeffe, why are you going to protect the target PK is going to kill? I guess I'm not getting why that would be useful. I'd think it more prominent to protect either him or discgrace above everyone else.

[eljeffe]

The idea is to verify that the dead have a guardian power, if that's the case. By having a designated target be protected, you would know that was our power.

[ardor]

It could cost us one of our last specials though to do so. Do you think that would be worthwhile information? I can see this as being a "Hey, we can have a network mouthpiece now" idea, but it might cost us something that also hurts us in the long run. At most, we have maybe 1 more seer out there if it isn't james. Being a network mouthpiece might not be useful 2-3 days from now when we find out we can have one.

If people take thorgot's suggestion to assume us three are working together, the monsters are bound to kill PK first, then maybe me. Incredibly few specials are as bold as I've been, they have to assume PK is a better target. Tomorrow though, things might be very different if you do live.

There's one more play you can make.

You can claim you got your seerings on day 3 and 4, suggesting that the other 2 seers are already dead. This might really entice the monsters to either go after you, or to push Thorgot a bit further.

[ardor]

You know, it still pains me slightly to admit it, but I've really come to respect working with you Precisionk.

[precisionk]

See, I'm not such a bad guy after all. I am just horrible person to ever trust. Though, I can be your best friend if your on my side, if I so choose.

Hahah, I did off Casual Eddy, my husband after all, just because of his comment in the thread.


I will most likely die tonight, probably due to the cheating that Ardor posted. I am sure the dead people know my role already and someone here is filtering it. Seriously, a dead thread is a retarded idea.

[eljeffe]

I already told DA that I had visions on days 2 and 4, so I probably don't want to say anything counter to that,

[eljeffe]

ardor said:

It could cost us one of our last specials though to do so. Do you think that would be worthwhile information?

Huh? How would it cost us a special? All it would do is cost us a vigilante kill. The idea is that PK posts in the thread and encodes a kill order by mentioning someone's name in conjunction with a code word. The only people who will know we're doing this is us, and the thread full of dead people. And the dead people don't even need to know PK's name - just that they have to protect/see/kill who I say in order to communicate their power.

[ardor]

Not necessarily, you could either protect discgrace or PK, or we could take the chance that one of them gets attacked while we prove such a mechanism exists.

I may be wrong, but I'm thinking that vigilante kill is worth more than a network mouthpiece. Let's be honest, half the village is the network right now. That's provided the dead thread can do more than help with visions.

I voice the opinion of conservatism on this one, but that's one opinion. You are at least as good as I am at these things.

LEt's assume you guys can protect someone. Tonight, let's assume PK lives, but me and DA (or someone else) dies.

Tomorrow, we indicate the target to the dead, they prove or disprove the ability and PK might die.

Losing a single kill isn't my concern, the chances of pk being attacked are much higher with his activity and the schenanigans we've got going on. In the long run, after tonight, and tomorrow, there will only be a few days left. Do we think in 2-3 days time a mouthpiece is worthwhile?

The guarding thing will potentially frustrate the bad guys for a while, but even if they decide to always throw one attack at the defended target and one against the others, they may be sitting pretty for a while.

[eljeffe]

Fair enough. If we have guardian powers, I'll try to get them to guard PK each night.

[ardor]

Well, hmm. 20 people left today.

17 (one of us dies)
14 (PK's attack blocked)
11 (mouthpiece goes forward - assuming PK died)
8
5
2

You know, looking at the numbers, I think I'm 50/50 on this one. If we can deflect 1-2 attacks with such an ability by trying to draw them out, then it's probably as good as keeping PK safe.

We'll have to come up with a plan of how to indicate our vig target to you guys. A simple one might be to have one of us vote someone for death, but EDIT: retract it in the same post.

EDIT: We'll choose a target we honestly want to kill, I'm sure whoever goes down there will make a good decision with what the results of tonight are.