Player Roster - Updated for night 7

[ardor]

The Adams Family: Husband - frandelgearslip - death by execution night 5
Wife - Malkor Slain by Vigilante - Night 1
Eldest Child - Senior Fish - vigilante'd night 6

The Bakersfield Family: Husband - Aldo - killed by execution night 4
Wife - Hakkekage
Eldest Child - Aroduc - death by witches - night 3

The Charles Family: Husband - James - death by witch night 5
Wife - Grundlterror - death by execution
Eldest Child - Gnasty Drained by Changelings - Night 2

The Dimsdale Family: Husband - Squashua Couldn't swim tied to a chair - Night 1
Wife - drinkinstout - death by changelings - night 3
Eldest Child - DiscGrace

The Flanders Family: Husband - Casual Eddy Slain by Vigilante - Night 2
Wife - precisionk - death by changlings night 6[/b]
Eldest Child - tuxkamen Sacrificed by Witches - Night 1

The Horton Family: Husband - Last Son - killed by execution night 4
Wife - Xorexnar - death by vote - night 3
Eldest Child - Elkamil

The Johnson Family: Husband - MrBallbaggins
Wife - Plutonium - staked night 7
Eldest Child - Buzz Buzz

The Kensington Family: Husband - Elbonian Man Given his final bath - Night 2
Wife - Lord Cecil Eaglelaser - death by changeling night 7
Eldest Child - cj iwakura Drained by Changelings - Night 1

The Nelson Family: Husband - Elendil - death by vote night 6
Wife - visiblehowl - killed by witch night 7
Eldest Child - an_alt

The Proctor Family: Husband - Frosteey - death by vigilante - night 3
Wife - Ardor
Eldest Child - robothero - killed by vigilante night 4

The Prynne Family: Husband - Marx - killed by witches and changelins night 4 (oops)
Wife - Bad Kitty - killed by execution night 4
Eldest Child - Variable - killed by vote night 4

The Roberts Family: Husband - FunkyWaltDogg Sacrificed on the Witches' altar - Night 2
Wife - Zek - death by execution - night 3
Eldest Child - Dread Pirate Cassandra

The Smith Family: Husband - DevoutlyApathetic
Wife - ElJeffe - death by witches night 6[/b]
Eldest Child - thorgot - death by execution night 5

[ardor]

Allies:
Disgrace - seer
Hakkekage - Stonecutter
MrBallBaggins - Stonecutter
Cass - seered innocent
Ardor - Claims innocence

Guys we think are ok but not being told anything:
Buzz buzz - claims innocence

Suspected bad guys:

DevoutlyApathetic - seered innocence?
Elkamil - seered innocent?
An_Alt - seered innocent?

[drinkinstout]

im working on a spreadsheet and playing with some numbers that we've been given - I'll find a way to post what I have once I get some time around work to finish it

[ardor]

Cool deal, take your time. This week hasn't been exciting at work for me, so I've got a little more time than usual to look at this stuff.

[Hakkekage]

Grundlterror seems like a good choice now that I think on it. He's been lying pretty low, too. Perhaps Marx should go after him?

[drinkinstout]

I've got my spreadsheet filled in with all the information we know and what we could deduce based upon the information from the sins list and who's died so far. How do you guys want me to share it? Looks like there are 13 adults left accusable, there are 3 families left fully alive w/o a confirmed innocent (Horton, Prynne and Smith) and I've been able to figure out the sins of all but 7 of the adults and which children have them.

[ardor]

You could try pasting to word then pasting into a post, otherwise you might have to google.doc it or something.

[drinkinstout]

alright try this: geocities.com/tbonem91/

I'll post the updates to that site there.

lemme know what you guys think.

the text in blue is what I could determine from the sin list we originally recieved and what has been publically posted, as well as some tidbits I've been told by Grace.

[Hakkekage]

Oh man, screw Aroduc.

[ardor]

I don't think he's evil, I think he wants to have a role that he feels matters. I'm betting he would rather be dead and influence the dead thread than sit up here with us. That's my honest thoughts on him.

[Hakkekage]

I don't think he's evil either, don't get me wrong. The first time he outed me, he told me it was because that would make me safe and un-accusable since there was no way robothero would be on at that time of the night (this was before the rules were clarified). I just think he's a little snot. If he's going to go down, don't drag ME into it D<

[ardor]

I don't know if you've seen him play or played in a game with him, but Aroduc is a crafty player. He's also quite smart and a good player, but patience isn't a stong point of his.

I honestly think he's bored up here and wants to be in the dead thread. Eventually, we will just send him down there and see if he has anything to say in defense. Like, he's the odd day vigilante for example.

[Hakkekage]

You know? It seems the monsters have killed all the children that DON'T have their secrets. looking at the list Buzz Buzz just posted, most of those are dead and innocent or confirmed/suspected innocents.

[ardor]

Could be. Really, I think James is the only one of those people not cleared yet. Then again, unless the monster are working together, that's by no means concrete evidence.

I contacted Elendil, told him I have a very small network going and I wanted him to tell me his thoughts on killing variable or grundlterror tonight. I'll let you know what he says.

[ardor]

Roster has been updated for day 4.

[ardor]

Leaving out buzz buzz, DA and plutonium, we number 8 against the 8 unknowns out there.

I honestly think we should leave those three until the end, but that's my thoughts alone. Marx told me on AIM he told Hakk to be suspicious of me. I can't blame you, I'm the only wild card here. All I can do is ask you to trust me. If I have to go sacrifice myself tomorrow, I don't mind doing it. I'd claim to be leading a network on confirmed innocents and see if I can't draw an attack.

[Hakkekage]

Aw man, Marx, what's the point of telling me to be vigilant if you tell the guy I'm supposed to be vigilant about to be vigilant that poeple are going to be vigilant of him?

You contradictory vigilante.

[ardor]

It doesn't matter. If it's better, just remove me from this board if that's possible if you don't want to trust me. At worst, I'm 1/5 of your win conditions and you already know 1/5 of them. Save me for last if you want to or hope discgrace gets a vision of me.

I'm still gunning for 5 more bad guys and I will help you find them all in life or in death. Let the monsters waste a kill on me, you need yours to confirm the unknown.

I have a pm other than my role pm from Nerissa to claim my innocence but showing that to you guys is cheating because I don't think she meant for it to be seen by anyone else.

[Hakkekage]

Hey, no, I trust you. I just wanted to say vigilant alot.

[visiblehowl]

IMPORTANT

Received this PM from BadKitty before she died:

Well it looks like I'm going to die tonight.
I was contacted by James, who claims that he had a vision of me and I was innocent.
I seered you and it was revealed to me that another has seered you as well.
Hopefully you can all make this network work.

I guess I'm a popular seering target? Anyway, it doesn't 100% confirm James as innocent, but I think you can put him on the "probably innocent" list.

[discgrace]

Unless the "other" who seered you is also James, someone's lying. There are only three seers, I'm one, and I haven't seen your ugly mug in my dreams at all.

[ardor]

Well, I don't know how you guys work, is it possible that two people got the vision of visible on the same night? That would alleviate the confusion in the above.

With grundl going away, it's possible james will be suspect for being the last person in his family alive and it allows us to check his voting records for the whole game, since he's the father and all.

[discgrace]

I'm not real clear on how we work either and who gets visions on which nights, but:

-I did not have a vision of visiblehowl
-BadKitty said she had a vision of Howl (meaning that she is a seer)
-BadKitty mentioned James being the last seer, but didn't say that he was the one who had had the other vision of howl

So either she meant that James had the other vision, which means her story could be true; although I don't know why she'd leave out that information since she didn't mind giving out his name or the fact that he seered her. Or: she's lying about being a seer; someone lied to her about being a seer and seeing howl; or James lied to her about seering her.

[ardor]

I suppose we can take the risk and assume he's a seer, but I don't think we should add him into the network.

However, we really only need to find out what the last 6 people up there are, and we should have the game. Once the last 6 die in the next few days, we should be able to go after the suspected innocents like DA etc.

It's obvious, but I think we need to blatantly keep ElJeffe off the voting block. If I have to, so it makes more sense for people to listen to me, I will start by voting everyone but him for execution today and when asked, I will start with "Bad guys wouldn't try to get themselves killed when one's down a member and the other is desperate (Elendil)". If pressed, I will claim ElJeffe was seered innocent and I'm in contact with a seer.

The risk with this plan is that if Buzz buzz is evil, he will know who isn't the seer, but who the last 4 stonecutters are.

I'll start with that for now, I won't claim to be with a seer or a network yet, I don't think we need to go that far.

[eljeffe]

Hello people.

Looks like I'm going to die tonight.