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Post by ardor on Jun 7, 2007 21:16:04 GMT -5
Here's the story behind DA, Plutonium and Buzz buzz.
At the beginning of almost every game, I contact two people before role pm's go out and ask if they want to work together and share role pm's. They can still lie to me, but I've only had one person ever lie to me. DA and Plutonium are the two people I contacted and we agreed to work together. Plutonium is just barely around and DA said he's working different work shifts this week. Either way, they are by no means innocent, but I feel they are less suspect than the others.
Buzz buzz is the child who gave me the information necessary to find the stonecutters. He's not stupid, so he should know who is in the network as far as stonecutters go. It took some convincing to get the information I needed, and the network is still hanging in there, so I don't think he's evil right now.
These guys aren't being told anything. I'm working with them seperately.
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Post by ardor on Jun 7, 2007 21:16:48 GMT -5
I say fuck killing off Elendil, since he is known and go after the unknown, like Thorgot. We can always kill Elendil. I agree 100% with this. We can assume he's a witch and if we get it down to just him left, away he goes.
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Post by discgrace on Jun 7, 2007 21:17:26 GMT -5
And sadly we're out of useful accusations. In fact the only person who can still be accused is, sadly, MrBalBaggins.
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Post by discgrace on Jun 7, 2007 21:18:33 GMT -5
Does anyone else find it pretty alarming that both the witches and the changelings tried to kill Marx tonight? Is there a leak in the network?
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Post by precisionk on Jun 7, 2007 21:22:45 GMT -5
If that is the case, i will most likely die tonight. Weeeeeeeeee
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Post by ardor on Jun 7, 2007 21:22:50 GMT -5
I don't believe so. I'm guessing they wanted to know why he survived the execution by a hair and went after him.
We were the only ones to know of Marx and we've known him since frosteey died by his shot.
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Post by Hakkekage on Jun 7, 2007 21:25:03 GMT -5
If there is, I can guess where it is.
As for DA, he's lied about different work shifts before; most notably, during Soviet Phalla, when he was evil. He lied to Eri and hung around vote time to see what went on while managing to squirm into her network.
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Post by ardor on Jun 7, 2007 21:29:26 GMT -5
Ahh. I'm not certain he'd want to betray the trust of myself and plutonium, but I would never rule it out.
He never knew Marx's name. He and plutonium got partial lists of the secrets, but that's it. IF anything, he'd be going after the stonecutters.
I'll be perfectly honest here with this network, there's only one reason this would be insecure, and that's me.
Everyone else has some defining reason or proof they are here. I am the only one here on my word alone. Yes, I helped get all the stonecutters together and yes I've helped maintain the life of the known innocents the best I can. However, without a vision or my death, you only have my word to go on.
As I've stated before, please trust me, I'm innocent. I just wanted to state that's really the only leak that could occur to my knowledge. We still have the numbers to make this work. All of the executions tomorrow save elJeffe will quickly help us learn more identities. I'm guessing Elendil has something to lose from them, that's why he came forward.
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Post by discgrace on Jun 7, 2007 21:33:24 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, Ardor, how did you set up the network initially? Me being late to the party and all that.
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Post by ardor on Jun 7, 2007 21:36:22 GMT -5
Take a look at your secrets list. Notice there are exactly 6 people who have the exact same secret, well I guess hakk's said fling instead of lover, but the same thing.
I contacted three people seperately and asked them if they were stonecutters due to sharing the exact same secret. Cecil just came forward, said yes, and gave me bagging's name. Hakk, once casual eddy got my pm, claimed they were together. visiblehowl confirmed that his was drinkinstout.
Eddy and stout died clean. That pretty much confirms them all.
I thought what buzz buzz and I did was against the rules and turned myself in to Nerissa. She claimed since there was a way to accomplish the same thing within the bounds, she said it was ok.
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Post by Hakkekage on Jun 7, 2007 21:38:00 GMT -5
In other words, he boxed me in and told me to make a forum. This guy, I swear...
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Post by discgrace on Jun 7, 2007 21:38:51 GMT -5
Well played indeed.
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Post by ardor on Jun 7, 2007 21:42:51 GMT -5
Well, I was in a huge gray area with the rules set down, so while I'm happy it got setup, I still feel bad about doing it. I don't want to feel I need to cheat at a forum game to win it.
Well, right now, I think we are roughly even with confirmed innocents versus unknowns. I updated the roster and the second post just has who we think are ok, who are confirmed, and who we don't know anything about.
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Post by ardor on Jun 8, 2007 8:21:12 GMT -5
In other words, he boxed me in and told me to make a forum. This guy, I swear... Remember though, I did tell you guys to not include me in this since I was, and still am, not verified.
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Post by visiblehowl on Jun 8, 2007 12:05:24 GMT -5
Does anyone else find it pretty alarming that both the witches and the changelings tried to kill Marx tonight? Is there a leak in the network? No, that was my fault. We needed the extra vote from Elendil at the time, so I told him we should vote not to kill him because I had information that he might be a special. This is why people should want me on the other team if I'm ever integral to the team's strategy. I make a mistake like this every single Phalla.
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Post by eljeffe on Jun 8, 2007 12:19:30 GMT -5
At the beginning of almost every game, I contact two people before role pm's go out and ask if they want to work together and share role pm's. They can still lie to me, but I've only had one person ever lie to me. Who might that one person have been, Ardor? Clearly, he's a duplicitous scoundrel with loose morals.
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Post by ardor on Jun 8, 2007 13:57:25 GMT -5
At the beginning of almost every game, I contact two people before role pm's go out and ask if they want to work together and share role pm's. They can still lie to me, but I've only had one person ever lie to me. Who might that one person have been, Ardor? Clearly, he's a duplicitous scoundrel with loose morals. Ahh, well, two then. You didn't want to share roles, you just used me to screw over the village. I found it to be hilarious. Well, once I figured out you were an evil bastard heh. The other was actually someone who didn't tell the other two he was one of the other factions. He didn't try to kill us and actually ended up being killed early on. He apologized for it too.
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